August 8, 2025
I’ve watched the Carlson interview of Margaret Roberts all the way through now, and it is extremely powerful. I have not had time to watch the Gingrich interview yet, so I’ll have to react to that one later.
It’s important to note, which you do with your touting of the Gingrich interview, that this Roberts book, Blowback: The Untold Story of the FBI and the Oklahoma City Bombing, is hot off the press, just having been published on July 22. Anyone who might have had a little bit of confidence in our government and our news media would certainly have lost it by the time they get to the end of the interview.
I knew quite a bit about the Kenneth Trentadue case, but it was news to me that two other key people in the OKC bombing case also “hanged themselves” in their prison cells. And she doesn’t even mention the highly suspicious “suicide” of the skeptical Oklahoma City policeman in the case, Terrence Yeakey, which I touch on in “Upton Sinclair and Timothy McVeigh.” From reading early customer reviews, I see that she does treat that subject in the book, though.
It also takes a long time, I thought, for the interview to get into the serious pay dirt. Not until the second hour do we learn about McVeigh’s almost certain recruitment into doing undercover work for the government right out of the Army, where he was something of a super soldier. Similarly, we don’t hear the names of Andreas Strassmeir and Carol Howe until the second hour. We do hear of an expression of surprise by McVeigh of the damage supposedly wrought to the Murrah Building by his truck bomb explosion, but neither Carlson nor Roberts makes the next logical step, which we see in my article, “Lying about Bombing.” It’s clear that most of the damage to the building was done by bombs planted in the building, not by the truck that blew up on the street out front.
They also don’t mention PATCON until the second hour. Searching the term online is very informative. Roberts’ estimate that there are some 15,000 informants for the FBI is also quite an eye-opener.
